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can israel really trust egypt or turkey? martin fletcher joins us now. >> larry, it's been another day of bitter fighting between palestinians and israels. they have been continuing to bombard targets in gaza. over 110 palestinians, several hundred wounded. the palestinians at a lower pace than before. the rockets fired at israel today. no serious damage done today. successfully intercepted those rocketsment all of the attention is on the question will israel invade gaza with its army or will there be a truce. there is intense negotiations especially in the arab world. trying to get israel and hamas to agree to a truce. but the question now is what will come first? truce or a ground invasion? very close call. everyone, of course, hoping that a truce will take place but an israeli invasion is very much on the coards. >> now let's get some good analysis. we have dan, co-author of start-up nation. dan, welcome back. you know, this whole business about this discussion israel supposedly negotiating with turkey and egypt. a former
can israel really trust egypt or turkey? martin fletcher joins us now. >> larry, it's been another day of bitter fighting between palestinians and israels. they have been continuing to bombard targets in gaza. over 110 palestinians, several hundred wounded. the palestinians at a lower pace than before. the rockets fired at israel today. no serious damage done today. successfully intercepted those rocketsment all of the attention is on the question will israel invade gaza with its army or...
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into egypt. now the hamas, they want israel to pull the military out. and have a complete opening of the borders. into egypt. general clark, doesn't that open the door, if that ever happened, to iranians rearming, rearming three egypt, through the sinai, rearming hamas just like they always do. >> of course, and israel can't permit that and shouldn't permit that. this is where egypt has to step up and say, we will insure that no weapons get back into gaza. that has to be worked out in stages and demonstrated. it has to be checked and verified. and israel has a continuing interest and should have a continuing right to verify that. >> do you think, general, serious, do you think that hamas, i hope i'm not being too cynical, but hamas in some sense, gained a public relations victory? is that possible? and when you talk about egypt, egypt helped them gain a public relations victory? that kind of burns the back of my neck, general. but that's kind of the way i see it. >> obviously, they are going to s
into egypt. now the hamas, they want israel to pull the military out. and have a complete opening of the borders. into egypt. general clark, doesn't that open the door, if that ever happened, to iranians rearming, rearming three egypt, through the sinai, rearming hamas just like they always do. >> of course, and israel can't permit that and shouldn't permit that. this is where egypt has to step up and say, we will insure that no weapons get back into gaza. that has to be worked out in...
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this is about egypt and the 1979 peace treaty. >> right. i'm going to get back to the whole issue of the spreading war. but i'm just real interested in the assessment, ambassador williamson, welcome back, that israel can just inflict massive, permanent damage on hamas and their alleged military. >> well, larry, first of all, i think it's really important to take a step back. we've been involved in a presidential election that sucked up the oxygen. hamas is a group that's recognized as a terrorist organization by the u.s. government, the israeli government and the european union, has increased shelling in areas of israel over recent weeks. they now have shelled tel aviv and 180 missiles went into southern israel. so israel for its own self-defense, its right of self-defense is organizing, rallying more reserve troops, getting ready for more permanent action. it can and should do what's necessary to protect its citizens, which means inflicting damage on hamas. >> heavy damage, deep damage. go as long as it takes. but john, given what you and
this is about egypt and the 1979 peace treaty. >> right. i'm going to get back to the whole issue of the spreading war. but i'm just real interested in the assessment, ambassador williamson, welcome back, that israel can just inflict massive, permanent damage on hamas and their alleged military. >> well, larry, first of all, i think it's really important to take a step back. we've been involved in a presidential election that sucked up the oxygen. hamas is a group that's recognized...
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first of all, egypt. we've seen days of protests because the new president claims some autocratic powers for himself. yesterday was the first day to see the egyptian market. it plummeted. we really don't know how this arab spring is going to unfold as we head into yet another year of it. >> broadly speaking, is that an oil play? >> yes, that's the possibility as we look at unrest. the other issue is argentina. a new york judge made a controversial ruling against argentina. they have a couple of payments coming up in december and we know a lot of emerging market funds own argentine debts and they may not make the coupon payments. that could have an impact. plus, there's controversy about the decision itself and whether or not it could actually impact the payment and settlement system of the international financial market. i'm sure that's going to get resolved but we should be watching. >> there could be a domino effect. >> exactly. uncertainty. >> we're focusing on greece and spain but -- >> they still mat
first of all, egypt. we've seen days of protests because the new president claims some autocratic powers for himself. yesterday was the first day to see the egyptian market. it plummeted. we really don't know how this arab spring is going to unfold as we head into yet another year of it. >> broadly speaking, is that an oil play? >> yes, that's the possibility as we look at unrest. the other issue is argentina. a new york judge made a controversial ruling against argentina. they have...
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. >> translator: egypt strongly condemns the killing. this is not acceptable. >> joining us to more is martin fletcher, correspondent for nbc news. hi, martin, what you can tell us, what's the latest? >> reporter: you mentioned that the u.n. called for an end to the violence. that didn't happen. the violence is continuing in a big way this morning. the area really is on a knife edge. israel's continuing its attacks in the gaza strip, but also very significantly for israel, targeting also the stockpiles of long range rockets that hamas has which threaten the central citizen in israel, in particular the bigger city tel aviv. so israel taking out those rocket piles from the air, also attacking from the sea. israel's army is poised at the border of gaza, reserves are being called up for a possible ground inflation of gaza, which i think nobody actually wants, but certainly a real possibility. at the same time, palestinian rocket attacks from gaza into israel are also continuing about 150 this morning, most of the israelis have been intercept
. >> translator: egypt strongly condemns the killing. this is not acceptable. >> joining us to more is martin fletcher, correspondent for nbc news. hi, martin, what you can tell us, what's the latest? >> reporter: you mentioned that the u.n. called for an end to the violence. that didn't happen. the violence is continuing in a big way this morning. the area really is on a knife edge. israel's continuing its attacks in the gaza strip, but also very significantly for israel,...
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we're talking about specifically violence in egypt. after a decree by egyptian president mohamed morsi that put his decisions above legal challenge. protesters accusing him of a coup. all eyes of course on egypt, as well as israel and gaza where the cease-fire is still in place. oil prices also saw additional port on the news out of europe, optimism over greece today. west texas intermediate closing above $88 a barrel, up 1% in this short rned session. brent risie ining as well but slightly less than that. >>> nonetheless, energy prices apparently are about to get lower. our next guest is talking 70s on crude for next year. john, why are you so bearish on oil for next year? >> a couple of things. global economy doesn't look all that great for next year particularly in europe. they have a lot to get together, the greece situation. we're also now -- >> it's going to get worse than it is this year. >> yeah. iea, opec itself all looking for demand declines next year in terms of growth. also, two things that bedevilled the brent market this
we're talking about specifically violence in egypt. after a decree by egyptian president mohamed morsi that put his decisions above legal challenge. protesters accusing him of a coup. all eyes of course on egypt, as well as israel and gaza where the cease-fire is still in place. oil prices also saw additional port on the news out of europe, optimism over greece today. west texas intermediate closing above $88 a barrel, up 1% in this short rned session. brent risie ining as well but slightly...
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egypt, the policy of the western world was egypt by propping up mubarak to have stability, quote, unquote, was account of greenspan stability we have, that kind of pseudo moderation. things were brewing under the surface and now we pay the price after 40 years of sadat and the other fellow. so now we have to pay the price. what's going to happen? nobody knows. even the players don't know. we still don't know. i don't think it is going -- we're going to move to democracy overnight. we're going to have turmoil. i don't know what's going to happen but that's identical to the trying to eliminate overstabilization of something makes it weaker. that's what we have in egypt. >> the key message is you need volatility, you need stressors in the system, and you need companies and you need markets who can survive those stressors and thrive by them. >> exactly. we need to encourage people to take certain classes of risk. we need more small fluctuation and fewer big crises. in fact we have the exact opposite. things are smooth but with big -- >> very quickly. you said four rules. can you give them qui
egypt, the policy of the western world was egypt by propping up mubarak to have stability, quote, unquote, was account of greenspan stability we have, that kind of pseudo moderation. things were brewing under the surface and now we pay the price after 40 years of sadat and the other fellow. so now we have to pay the price. what's going to happen? nobody knows. even the players don't know. we still don't know. i don't think it is going -- we're going to move to democracy overnight. we're going...
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it is so interesting to watch the new egypt emerge here and see what their role will be throughout this and in the future. thank you, john. >>> let's look at where the markets stand right now. it is a good checkpoint here at about two minutes past 1:00 eastern time. industrials up 48 points at 12,835 and change. nasdaq higher by .5%, 2,924. s&p up 2 1/2 points at 1 $1,390.32. gold at $1,731 an ounce. oil moving a little bit higher. the january contract at $86.97, up 22 cents. brent crude at $109.93. michelle? >>> another international note on a store out of europe that we continue to watch as well. there are reports of a deal to release emergency aid to greece could come monday. we're also learning today the european central bank is satisfied with a plan to recapitalize greek banks. that's going to be a key part of any kind of international bailout to get that country back up on its feet. >>> now to shopping an retail. of course it takes center stage this week. before we get to what retailers are hoping for, fearful of, and promising for this crucial holiday shopping season, let's look
it is so interesting to watch the new egypt emerge here and see what their role will be throughout this and in the future. thank you, john. >>> let's look at where the markets stand right now. it is a good checkpoint here at about two minutes past 1:00 eastern time. industrials up 48 points at 12,835 and change. nasdaq higher by .5%, 2,924. s&p up 2 1/2 points at 1 $1,390.32. gold at $1,731 an ounce. oil moving a little bit higher. the january contract at $86.97, up 22 cents. brent...
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investors have gotten quite bullish on egypt. do you think the investment thesis is fundamentally changed? >> i think it's a bit of a wake-up call to the post-revolution transition in the egypt's economy is never going to be easy. the imf deal that was announced last week, should be agreed at broad level probably by the end of this year. that really averts the immediate threat of the balance payment crisis. that was a very real significant threat up until this deal was agreed. but anyone that's expecting very rapid changes i think will be disappointed. i think egypt is moving in the right direction, but it's going to be very much a case of two steps forward and one step back. it's going to be bumpy for at least the next year or so. >> i wonder, too, charles, would egypt be one of the biggest countries in the middle east, an important previous source of stability, what the latest bout of unrest spells for the investment picture broadly speaking? >> we saw that with the israeli-gaza issues of late. really, all across the middle eas
investors have gotten quite bullish on egypt. do you think the investment thesis is fundamentally changed? >> i think it's a bit of a wake-up call to the post-revolution transition in the egypt's economy is never going to be easy. the imf deal that was announced last week, should be agreed at broad level probably by the end of this year. that really averts the immediate threat of the balance payment crisis. that was a very real significant threat up until this deal was agreed. but anyone...
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focusing more on cairo, egypt. that's where intense negotiations are taking place as we understand it. egypt is trying to mediate a truce between palestinian factions and israel. hamas made clear it feels it is in the driver's seat here. it says it will not lay down its arms or stop firing rockets until israel blocks on the territory. it is securing guarantees from israel lit not target hamas or any other palestinian leaders as it did on wednesday p when it killed senior member of hamas' military wing. the israelis say that it is in the driver's seat. it would not stop its aerial assault and not stop possible ground invasion unless hamas halts all rocket fire into southern israel. obviously you can imagine difficult road ahead. right now egypt is meeting with other key players in the region. including the prime minister of turkey, u.n. secretary general moon as well as the prime minister. intense negotiations to avert a ground war in the coming day. >> entire world watching. thank you very much. >>> when we come ba
focusing more on cairo, egypt. that's where intense negotiations are taking place as we understand it. egypt is trying to mediate a truce between palestinian factions and israel. hamas made clear it feels it is in the driver's seat here. it says it will not lay down its arms or stop firing rockets until israel blocks on the territory. it is securing guarantees from israel lit not target hamas or any other palestinian leaders as it did on wednesday p when it killed senior member of hamas'...
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this apparently was egypt's idea and secretary clinton congressmened mohammed morsi on what he has done, the constructive involvement he's had in this process, essentially brokers where they are now. but important to note this is a cease fire. it goes into effect in an hour and 20 minutes, but this is not a comprehensive deal. this doesn't address a lot of palestinian concerns about the blockade or their quality of life or for the israeli's safety and security in the future about these rockets that have been coming out of gaza. >> comes on a day obviously when we were looking at pictures of that bus bombing in h tel aviv. >> exactly. that's incredibly disconcerting for the people of this city. tas scene they've been many times before, but there hasn't been a bus bomb ng israel since 2004 or a terrorist attack since 2006 and seeing that scene on the ground today will be all too familiar for people. the problem is instead of rockets coming in, you're talking about people among us attacking us, it is a very disconcerting proposition, but those two events, the cease fire and this bomb this
this apparently was egypt's idea and secretary clinton congressmened mohammed morsi on what he has done, the constructive involvement he's had in this process, essentially brokers where they are now. but important to note this is a cease fire. it goes into effect in an hour and 20 minutes, but this is not a comprehensive deal. this doesn't address a lot of palestinian concerns about the blockade or their quality of life or for the israeli's safety and security in the future about these rockets...
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not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and worse, more and more complicated and we are going to parse through it. first up, with the fiscal cliff only 45 short days away, are we facing a stalemate or is there a new kissy huggy era coming to washington, d.c.? we've got two kissy huggy cnbc contributors. jared bernstein, former vice president, biden chief economist, and kissy huggy jim pethokoukis of the american enterprise institute. jimmy p., i love this new washington picture. and i don't want to be pessimistic. i want to be optimistic. maybe they can make a deal. but here's what i worry about, jimmy. here's what i fear. the republicans are conceding that they'll give a revenue -- a tax revenue portion by limiting deductions. but i don't see any spending
not long after, air raid sirens went off in jerusalem, and egypt sends its prime minister to the gaza strip in a show of solidarity with the -- and did general petraeus pull a 180 degree turn in testimony today? in september he said it was videos and spontaneous demonstrations. today he said the cia knew all along it was a terrorist attack in libya. this story gets worse and worse, more and more complicated and we are going to parse through it. first up, with the fiscal cliff only 45 short days...
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right now that president obama has indeed called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as well as egypt's president mohamed morsi ostensibly to discuss ways to get a cease-fire in the middle east. israeli inner cabinet is meeting as we speak. ayman, what is the latest live? gaza? >> reporter: well, there's a flurry of diplomatic activity all across the region. we understand that israel's top security officials known as the inner cabinet that includes the prime minister, the defense minister and other important figures are going to be convening within the hour to have a meeting to discuss possible offers that have been made by egyptian mediators regarding the truce coming out of gaza and their response to those offers coming out of egypt. more importantly, they're also going to chart what course of action the israeli government will undertake if indeed they reject or accept that truce offer. there are 30,000 soldiers that have been amassed across the border, 75,000 called up from the reservists. many people feel that's an ominous sign a ground invasion is eminent if indeed these truce talk
right now that president obama has indeed called israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, as well as egypt's president mohamed morsi ostensibly to discuss ways to get a cease-fire in the middle east. israeli inner cabinet is meeting as we speak. ayman, what is the latest live? gaza? >> reporter: well, there's a flurry of diplomatic activity all across the region. we understand that israel's top security officials known as the inner cabinet that includes the prime minister, the defense...
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egypt is under fresh frpressuree americans. but clearly we're still in a situation where egyptian foreign policy is still evolving. so we're not quite sure what the rule of the games are. >> are you surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction in the markets? >> not at this stage. hartwe'll comment about how it will play out is accurate because we don't know with respect to the new administration. but there is potentially a chance it might direct israeli government thinking towards the idea that just constant cycle and recycle of violence doesn't solve the problem. there have baeen countless strikes since 1967. it doesn't solve anything and also doesn't make iz rally citizens any safe p. the idea that there are extare strategic installations, it's shenksly a big refugee camp. it almost seems overplaying it. so the influence of the egyptian government could be potentially benign. it may have put more restrained response and the idea that there might be some peace initiative. >> david, do you agree the situation could be more b
egypt is under fresh frpressuree americans. but clearly we're still in a situation where egyptian foreign policy is still evolving. so we're not quite sure what the rule of the games are. >> are you surprised there hasn't been more of a reaction in the markets? >> not at this stage. hartwe'll comment about how it will play out is accurate because we don't know with respect to the new administration. but there is potentially a chance it might direct israeli government thinking...
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i'm not a gae owe political expert on places like egypt, but the whole nature of the region 45s chan has changed to some extent. we're dealing with an additional level of uncertainty. that means that whereas previously you would have had someone like egypt as a broke he, they may be more one-sided now and have opinions of their own. we can remain hopeful, but there is that risk. >> charles, thank you very much for joining us here. head of market strategy at lloyds bank wholesale banking and markets. on today's show, we'll have more on on the escalating tensions in the middle east. we'll be live in tel aviv in right around 15 minutes time for a view from the ground. switzerland is where xtrata will have a slowdown tomorrow, we'll find out why bonuses become a key point of contention. and we'll be live in athens to find out if we can finally expect resolution on the country's next tranche of aid this week. and we track a bond making an aggressive bet on recovery. that happens at 11:20 cet. president obama made a his tore rig stop in myanmar. the six hour visit marks the first for a ser
i'm not a gae owe political expert on places like egypt, but the whole nature of the region 45s chan has changed to some extent. we're dealing with an additional level of uncertainty. that means that whereas previously you would have had someone like egypt as a broke he, they may be more one-sided now and have opinions of their own. we can remain hopeful, but there is that risk. >> charles, thank you very much for joining us here. head of market strategy at lloyds bank wholesale banking...
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. >>> hillary clinton joins egypt in attempting to broke aerodeal between israel and hamas. strikes on gaza and rocket attacks into israel continue. >> you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> all right, we're into hump day, the day before thanksgiving, of course, as well. on today's show, we'll have updates from athens and brussels as the eurozone ministers fail to ruse a deal for greece. air strikes and rocket fire continue in the gaza strip in tel aviv, as hillary clinton urges both sides to diffuse violence. we'll have the latest live from zree israeli. we'll also take the pulse of the polish country. analysts from warsaw 40 minutes from now. >>> we'll be in providence, rhode island, to preview travel ahead of the thanksgiving holiday with the head of operations at peter pan bus lines. >>> but first, after nearly 12 hours of talks, eurozone finance ministers have failed in their quest to agree conditions that would have allowed the next chance of bailout cash going to greece. what's next? what's gone wrong? we'll be join
. >>> hillary clinton joins egypt in attempting to broke aerodeal between israel and hamas. strikes on gaza and rocket attacks into israel continue. >> you're watching "worldwide exchange," bringing you business news from around the globe. >>> all right, we're into hump day, the day before thanksgiving, of course, as well. on today's show, we'll have updates from athens and brussels as the eurozone ministers fail to ruse a deal for greece. air strikes and...
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coming from cairo where egypt's president mohammad speaking to mourners saying egypt was passing through difficult days but there could be light at the end of the tunnel and referred to the truce that may be taking place in egypt. he said that the aggression on gaza would end on tuesday. didn't give details about that agreement. reports coming out of israel citing officials on israel radio that a truce could be announced as late as tuesday night this evening with the arrival of u.s. secretary of state hillary clinton. that's what's happening outside of gaza. here in gaza it still feels like a war footing. in the last couple of hours the iz rally israelis have warned of imminent attacks on homes and neighborhoods and forcing people to leave their cities and move into central gaza and an indication that a ground invasion may be imminent if a truce is not sealed within the next couple of hours. you can get a sense there's a great sense of fear among ordinary people of gaza that in coming hours it could go either one of two ways. people are hoping it will be a truce but there's no doubt with
coming from cairo where egypt's president mohammad speaking to mourners saying egypt was passing through difficult days but there could be light at the end of the tunnel and referred to the truce that may be taking place in egypt. he said that the aggression on gaza would end on tuesday. didn't give details about that agreement. reports coming out of israel citing officials on israel radio that a truce could be announced as late as tuesday night this evening with the arrival of u.s. secretary...
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that's the same group that took power in egypt and the group that gave birth to hamas. jordan is still ruled by king abdullah. the muslim brotherhood has made it clear they'd like him to go. >>> we got a nice rally under way here, bertha. >> nasdaq 100, qqqs are the best performers today and among the best advancers is green mountain coffee. of course this is a huge short position. some 39%. this looks a little bit like a technical rally here. the company's stock has moved above its 50-day moving average. it's been just below that over the last couple of weeks and about $1 above that now. >>> red states versus blue states. is your town a state about to fall off the fiscal cliff? steve leisman has the maps that will show us which states and counties stand to get hit the hardest by potential federal spending cuts. everything is bigger in texas. including the strategy for taking down this building. we'll show you what happened when the engineers pushed the plunger. that's next. >>> if congress drifts u.s. economy off the fiscal cliff, the department of education's 2013 bud
that's the same group that took power in egypt and the group that gave birth to hamas. jordan is still ruled by king abdullah. the muslim brotherhood has made it clear they'd like him to go. >>> we got a nice rally under way here, bertha. >> nasdaq 100, qqqs are the best performers today and among the best advancers is green mountain coffee. of course this is a huge short position. some 39%. this looks a little bit like a technical rally here. the company's stock has moved above...
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>> yeah, i mean, well, the only good thing is there's no oil in gaza, egypt or israel really. steve is saying if it's a conflagration in the entire mideast, obviously we're not energy independent yet, trying to get there. i don't think it's going to get that far. i think they're testing the political waters here and seeing how we position ourselves. >> the other issue that keeps rising for the markets is what's happening in europe. we have seen today that cypress is on the verge of running out of money. we've seen it with greece and we think at least the market collectively seems to think things have improved to the point where we are giving this breathing room. the problem is there even if the european central bank bought some time. steve why has it sat on the backburner so long? >> all they do is buy time and for the first time since the 1930s, all of these countries, most of them are raising taxes in the face of a declining economy, which is insign. japanese are doing the same thing. you know it's happening in france, 75% tax rate piling on taxes on business, capital gains,
>> yeah, i mean, well, the only good thing is there's no oil in gaza, egypt or israel really. steve is saying if it's a conflagration in the entire mideast, obviously we're not energy independent yet, trying to get there. i don't think it's going to get that far. i think they're testing the political waters here and seeing how we position ourselves. >> the other issue that keeps rising for the markets is what's happening in europe. we have seen today that cypress is on the verge of...
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president morsist says he has to takes the action action becausitis egypt's judiciary that's stalling the it's shaping out -- caught in the midding are supporters every both sides, the liberal and secular state say it's on the wrong side, but the president and supporters say he has the pourer, authority and justification to take these measures. >>> as we look at some of the pictures ayman, thank you. >>> we're being blown around by some headlines here. we've had great numbers on housing. here's what happened, right about here. came out below expectations. this is some of the negative data points. i was a little surprised by it. the market was, too. then we want representative boehner come out saying he was optimistic. so we're getting blown around by the headlines. downbeat september and october new home sales numbers. let's talk about retail. things are looking good in retail land. american eagle, all had generally positive comments this morning is consumers continues to spend, home prices are rising. holiday promotions have not been expensive, the cost of goods are lower than last y
president morsist says he has to takes the action action becausitis egypt's judiciary that's stalling the it's shaping out -- caught in the midding are supporters every both sides, the liberal and secular state say it's on the wrong side, but the president and supporters say he has the pourer, authority and justification to take these measures. >>> as we look at some of the pictures ayman, thank you. >>> we're being blown around by some headlines here. we've had great numbers...
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. >>> in egypt mass protests are planned from the muslim brotherhood and opponents in cairo today over the decree giving new powers to morsi. ayman is live in cairo with the latest. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. tens of thousands of protestors have gathered in tahrir square. many of them saying and singing the same songs and chants in the revolution. they changed the name from mubarak to morsi. the demands are the same. many people behind me today have been galvanized by the degree cree of morsi that gave him sweeping powers, including those to legislate without judicial review. it's not just about the decree. they're disappointed with the pace of reform. they're disappointed with the new constitutional assembly writing a constitution. they say it's not pluralistic and does not represent all of egyptians, and more importantly they're angered by the police force in egypt still using the same brutal tactics they used under mubarak. there have been no reforms and no convictions of officers that killed protestors. they're coming out in large numbers behind me. that has galvanize
. >>> in egypt mass protests are planned from the muslim brotherhood and opponents in cairo today over the decree giving new powers to morsi. ayman is live in cairo with the latest. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. tens of thousands of protestors have gathered in tahrir square. many of them saying and singing the same songs and chants in the revolution. they changed the name from mubarak to morsi. the demands are the same. many people behind me today have been galvanized...
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this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference. do you think it would behoove the president to get involved and trying to solve this crisis? is it even possible to find a solution in the next four years? that question is really asked of every president. >> i think you're absolutely right, from truman, if you want the history, to george bush, people talked about solving the crisis. president obama actually kind of turned away from the region, from the conflict. but now there is noise to do what he can do in the second administration, not the first. it always frustrates american pres
this will be pressure from egypt. there will be pressure from turkey and qatar, the three countries that are the most sympathetic to hamas, because don, i think the fear is warranted. it is not the last time we'll see the conflict between israel and the palestinians. hamas is leading the palestinian people to ruin, hamas must be seen to be a rogue regime. because it is under the palestinian national authority. >> i want to go back to something you said about the president's indifference....
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the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist wage in the region and they see the islamist government in tunisia and they look around and see turkey hovering over the region with an islamist government and they feel the wind is blowing their way. >> do you think it is blowing their way? >> not at all because in the end the hamas people would be fooling themselves and the palestinians would pay the price for this kind of folly because the arab world is not going to march to the tune of hamas. the saudi monarchy, if you listen to what's happening and what's coming out of saudi arabia, the only thing the saudi monarch said was we need the rule
the historic ties between egypt and gaza in particular and egypt ruled gaza for something like 19 years or so. so, of course, there is a sense of outrage in egypt and anyway, we should remember it was never good between egypt and israel even under mub abak, but what the israelis now miss is sulaiman and the vice president of mubarak. he was tied to israeli intelligence. what kind of proximity and that kind of affinity is gone and what you have in hamas now is the sense that there is an islamist...
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remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the israel-hamas battleground. ahead, how both sides are pushing their messages on twitter and other social media. two years ago, the people of bp made a commitment to the gulf. bp has paid over twenty-three billion dollars to help those affected and to cover cleanup costs. today, the beaches and gulf are open, and many areas are reporting their best tourism seasons in years. and bp's also committed to america. we support nearly 250,000 jobs and invest more here than anywhere else. we're working to fuel america for generations to come. our commitment has never been stronger. >>> i want you to take a look
remember, gaza shares a common border with egypt and it's a very important connection. so you get the egyptians, you get the turks, the qataris, maybe the saudis to weigh in and the israelis to provide the space and time to allow this diplomacy to take hold, and maybe, although nobody ever lost money betting against arab-israeli peace, maybe, just maybe, you can get out of this. >> aaron david miller. thank you, sir. >> always a pleasure, don. >>> cyberspace is part of the...
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meanwhile, egypt and president mohamed morsi say discussions are under way in cairo and arab league foreign ministers are set to visit gaza on tuesday. violence has become a daily nightmare for people living in gaza. anderson cooper joins us now. take us to the ground and what's going on. what you seeing and hearing? >> it's about 2:00 a.m. here. we have heard a number of large explosions this evening. just a few in the last hour or so. this is generally the time when the strikes actually intensify. that's what we have seen over the last several nights. you can hear drones circling overhead, over gaza city as they have been since the conflict began. it's a constant sound, a constant reminder of the israeli forces watching the city. as you mentioned there was a strike. the israeli military said was a house owned by a hamas commander of an artillerary unit, initially, they said they killed that commander and then walked that back and said they couldn't be clear if he was at the house at the time. ten members of another family were staying at the house. they were all killed. our arwa damon was
meanwhile, egypt and president mohamed morsi say discussions are under way in cairo and arab league foreign ministers are set to visit gaza on tuesday. violence has become a daily nightmare for people living in gaza. anderson cooper joins us now. take us to the ground and what's going on. what you seeing and hearing? >> it's about 2:00 a.m. here. we have heard a number of large explosions this evening. just a few in the last hour or so. this is generally the time when the strikes actually...
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though the egyptian government never told the people of egypt how important this was to maintain this peaceful relationship, and we don't have that right now. i think the prime minister of egypt -- not morsi, but the prime minister went to gaza, high-ranking person went to gaza last week, met with them. they've expressed all kinds of sympathy. certainly the senate passed a resolution last week unanimously that's in line with what the congressman just said about the right to defend yourselves, but we've got people who have traditionally been our allies in trying to maintain the peace in turkey, in tunisia, in egypt that now are encouraging the things that clearly will not keep the peace if hamas is allowed to continue to do what israel can't, frankly, allow it, candy, to continue to do. >> let me add in the other element here, and that's iran. is iran arming hamas? we know where these weapons are coming in. iran says they're not, but is there evidence to the contrary, is iran involved in the arming of hamas and what seems to be a little bit at least of increased capacity with these mis
though the egyptian government never told the people of egypt how important this was to maintain this peaceful relationship, and we don't have that right now. i think the prime minister of egypt -- not morsi, but the prime minister went to gaza, high-ranking person went to gaza last week, met with them. they've expressed all kinds of sympathy. certainly the senate passed a resolution last week unanimously that's in line with what the congressman just said about the right to defend yourselves,...
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. >> you have added on to that the arab spring, which gave us new leadership in egypt. how scary is this that mohammed morsi will be a source for good. >> clearly they have a right to defend themselves, and they have to protect their citizens. we have to remember the united states it's as if washington d.c. was being attacked from the state of maryland. it's very, very serious what's happening there. i think as far as the arab spring, clearly the environment has changed, and i think the united states now is looking to morsi so look to hamas to get them to stop shooting. hopefully you can take advantage of the negative situation and start talking about peace. >> president morsi has his own problems at home too in terms of trying to be tough on hamas, which, after all, is part of the muslim brotherhood and the palestinians. do you think he can be helpful? has he been helpful? >> i don't know that he has. clearly we've benefitted from almost 40 years now of having peace partners between israel and egypt even though the egyptian government never told the people of egypt how
. >> you have added on to that the arab spring, which gave us new leadership in egypt. how scary is this that mohammed morsi will be a source for good. >> clearly they have a right to defend themselves, and they have to protect their citizens. we have to remember the united states it's as if washington d.c. was being attacked from the state of maryland. it's very, very serious what's happening there. i think as far as the arab spring, clearly the environment has changed, and i think...
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of the ongoing peace between egypt and israel? is that at risk? >> it's very much at risk. i think that, look, the egyptian public wants their now democratically elected government to do something, to show some kind of strength, to show that they will not acquiesce in the israelis beating up palestinians. so far the egyptian government has not responded to its people, but after awhile a democratically elected government can't keep saying no to its own people. >> when the ambassador said just now, listen, we left gaza and they should have had prosperity and everything else and they've ruined it and gone to terrorism, it seemed to me a pretty simplistic view of what's happened on gaza. gaza is to many people one of the key problems in the region because of the terrible oppression and whatever the right phrase is for it of the palestinian people. it's an awful place for people to try and live, isn't it? >> first one has to say as you did, the israelis are justified in doing something when all these rockets are being fired at them. so
of the ongoing peace between egypt and israel? is that at risk? >> it's very much at risk. i think that, look, the egyptian public wants their now democratically elected government to do something, to show some kind of strength, to show that they will not acquiesce in the israelis beating up palestinians. so far the egyptian government has not responded to its people, but after awhile a democratically elected government can't keep saying no to its own people. >> when the ambassador...
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there's a new key that's under way in egypt. this could be very crucial, very important. now the secretary general ban ki-moon is in cairo. so there's a lot of pressure, the u.s. would certainly like to see a cessation of hostilities, the israelis are anxious for that to happen. they want to see what's going on. one of the things that the israelis point out is that yes, hamas is in charge and they hold that group responsible. but there's other groups in gaza that may not completely been under the control of hamas. that could be one of the problems even though one of the -- saying hamas is responsibility for any rockets that come into israel right now. some of the civilian casualties we saw today, there will be a lot more if israeli tanks or armored personnel carries or israeli troops move into that heavily populated area, but they're saying and the prime minister said today, benjamin net tanya -- netanyahu. >> wolf blitzer -- president obama is monitoring the conflict in the middle east as he travels through asia. today in thailand, he said the u.s. will work with all par
there's a new key that's under way in egypt. this could be very crucial, very important. now the secretary general ban ki-moon is in cairo. so there's a lot of pressure, the u.s. would certainly like to see a cessation of hostilities, the israelis are anxious for that to happen. they want to see what's going on. one of the things that the israelis point out is that yes, hamas is in charge and they hold that group responsible. but there's other groups in gaza that may not completely been under...
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>> i think president morsi of egypt plays a critical role. he and his government are, as we speak, trying to broker a cease-fire. he is being aided and supported in these efforts by important arab players such as the prime minister of turkey, the crowned prince of qatar and cairo. even the tunisian prime minister that's visited gaza, and this is a muslim brotherhood president who has very close ties to hamas and, therefore, he is a valid interlocuture. >> i don't think they want to see a ground war or an extension of this conflict because it will destabilize an already destabilized region, especially considering what's happening in syria. >> ambassador let's talk about israeli politics as former ambassador to israel, you know the political system there well. we just finished our election. there's an election coming up in january. how much of this could possibly be the prime minister showing the strength of his administration as he stands there at the boarder? >> i think there's an element of that. i think the first thing is the fact that the
>> i think president morsi of egypt plays a critical role. he and his government are, as we speak, trying to broker a cease-fire. he is being aided and supported in these efforts by important arab players such as the prime minister of turkey, the crowned prince of qatar and cairo. even the tunisian prime minister that's visited gaza, and this is a muslim brotherhood president who has very close ties to hamas and, therefore, he is a valid interlocuture. >> i don't think they want to...
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egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood and egypt is telling hamas, we have to find a way out of this with some stability intact, that is a different outkom >> fareed, how do you see this? . >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the problem, netanyahu people, bibi and barack, they have a tactical approach. they are hitting back and remember, they have been trying the do this with israel has invaded gaza and they have economically choked gaza, and they have succeeded. they have overwhelming force. what is the strategy to deal with gaza? how does this help israel in its long-term strategy? how does it play out with the regional strategy where israel's relations with egypt have deteriorated. its relations with turkey have deteriorated, so no question it is justified, but the question i
egypt has, in fact, i think hamas will go out. but if egyptians are telling hamas, we got the muslim brotherhood and egypt is telling hamas, we have to find a way out of this with some stability intact, that is a different outkom >> fareed, how do you see this? . >> no question, it's justified. the attacks were out of gaza by hamas, were completely -- they had gone crazy in temps of the scope, intensity, and hamas was openly taking credit for them, rather than disavowing them. the...
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i fear, too, you said egypt. egypt now is an entirely different country. it's governed by morsi, a member of the muslim brotherhood and also for our american viewers he's a member of the muslim brotherhood between hamas in palestinian can territories and the muslim brotherhood. morsi is between a rock and a hard place. he's under tremendous pressure and also his relationship with the united states. that's why i believe that egypt has a very constructive role to play in the deescalation. >> we'll see how that plays out. i hate to interrupt, but we have a lot going on. thank you very much. fawaz gerges. of course, we'll have you back. let's go to asia where president obama is on a historic tour this morning. his first stop is thailand. we'll tell you why this trip sets him apart from other u.s. presidents. [ female announcer ] beef, meet flavor boost. flavor boost, meet beef. it's swanson flavor boost. concentrated broth to add delicious flavor to your skillet dish in just one stir. mmm! [ female announcer ] cook, meet compliments. get recipes at flavorboost
i fear, too, you said egypt. egypt now is an entirely different country. it's governed by morsi, a member of the muslim brotherhood and also for our american viewers he's a member of the muslim brotherhood between hamas in palestinian can territories and the muslim brotherhood. morsi is between a rock and a hard place. he's under tremendous pressure and also his relationship with the united states. that's why i believe that egypt has a very constructive role to play in the deescalation....
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egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al jabarry, who is the leader of hamas' military wing, but he is also one of the founders of hamas. we are talking about a huge blow to hamas, and now the government there in gaza. israel is also telling us, and we've just heard this from its military spokesperson, that they are bringing in reservists, but they are considering a ground war, but have not yet given the go-ahead for that, but they are preparing. we know that they have been firing with the air with the air strikes, but we also know that they have been firing from the sea. their ships are anchored just off of the sea there
egypt has recalled its ambassador to israel. in the meantime, the u.s. state department condemned the strikes fired from gaza and supporting israel's right to defend itself. i talked about all of this with sara sidner and also david kirkpatrick of "the new york times" and cnn's fareed zakaria. what is the latest on the attacks and the fallout? >> what we are seeing are more rockets coming into israel. there have been dozens of air strikes, as well since the killing of ahmed al...
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there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have recalled their ambassador from israel and they have told their people that look, president morsi is talking to president obama about bringing the fighting to a halt so that's one thing that we can look forward to. one thing that's very important, tomorrow is friday. there has already been calls for massive demonstration, a million people march, in cairo against the israelis. i think this will be the one country and the one theater to watch. >> fuad, thank you. sara, stay safe. thank you very much. let us know what you think. >>> up next, former cia director david petra
there have always been historic ties between gaza and egypt. egyptians are very sensitive to everything that goes on in gaza. >> many tunnels from egypt go into gaza to get supplies. >> absolutely. in fact, under mubarak it was much easier because mubarak couldn't care less about hamas. this is a very different issue here, because the muslim brotherhood in egypt really is the mothership, if you will, of hamas and other such organizations. but what will the egyptians do. they have...
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you had the prime minister of egypt today. egypt will be very careful not to break with israel, not to break camp david, of course, but nonetheless, it's opening up that border and it's going to be easier for hamas to elicit this rocket territory. i think that has them much more worried and much more willing and able to go into places like gaza to try to deal with the threat and deal with the ruse of a threat. >> nick, you mentioned the egyptian president. i want to you listen to a fiery speech he made today about the people of gaza and what egypt thinks. listen to this. >> reporter: we support the people of gaza. we are with them in their trenches. what hurts them hurts us. and the blood that flows from their children is our blood, too. >> riva, these are warlike words. is there any real danger here of this thing spilling beyond this? for all these warlike words between neighbors out there, does anyone else want to get into this fight if israel goes into gaza or will it be between gaza and israel? >> ij for right now we're se
you had the prime minister of egypt today. egypt will be very careful not to break with israel, not to break camp david, of course, but nonetheless, it's opening up that border and it's going to be easier for hamas to elicit this rocket territory. i think that has them much more worried and much more willing and able to go into places like gaza to try to deal with the threat and deal with the ruse of a threat. >> nick, you mentioned the egyptian president. i want to you listen to a fiery...
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egypt's role in this conflict growing as many countries tout egypt as the potential peacemaker in all of this. straight to reza sayah in cairo for us. so today, reza, the egyptian leadership met with hamas. a group the u.s. classifies as a terrorist organization. should washington be concerned about egypt's role in this conflict? >> reporter: well, first off, we should point out that at this point it is not clear what egypt's role is in this conflict. it is not clear if what we're hearing is rhetoric or something behind the rhetoric. i think egypt's role will be clearer and clearer in the coming days and weeks. as far as the question whether washington should be worried, it depends how you process and digest all these developments. if someone sitting in washington and they buy into this very fiery rhetoric, sure, they could be concerned. rhetoric has been tough. rhetoric in tough condemnation by mohamed morsi. if you look at what is happening beyond the rhetoric, you can say egypt has not taken any steps that can be viewed as extreme or radical, certainly haven't taken up arms against
egypt's role in this conflict growing as many countries tout egypt as the potential peacemaker in all of this. straight to reza sayah in cairo for us. so today, reza, the egyptian leadership met with hamas. a group the u.s. classifies as a terrorist organization. should washington be concerned about egypt's role in this conflict? >> reporter: well, first off, we should point out that at this point it is not clear what egypt's role is in this conflict. it is not clear if what we're hearing...
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egypt needs western money. european and importantly, united states money just to survive economically. the sense is i don't think any of these people want to go to a ground war. israel has an election in two months. they don't want dead soldiers. netanyahu doesn't want dead soldiers. egypt can't afford for things to go south for them as well. i get the feeling that everyone is waiting for a truce to come out to be brought up probably in egypt, and everyone can say they both won and go back to the highly unsatisfactory status quo. >> let's listen to one egyptian official what they believe could be a peace treaty. >> respecting the peace treaty does not mean they're indifferent what is going on along our borders, and what is touching our -- we cannot be indifferent to human suffering. so we are abiding by our obligations, but we are active to help establish real peace in the area. >> what do you make of that? >> we were saying before, there is a need for this truce to come out. i think there's probably being one
egypt needs western money. european and importantly, united states money just to survive economically. the sense is i don't think any of these people want to go to a ground war. israel has an election in two months. they don't want dead soldiers. netanyahu doesn't want dead soldiers. egypt can't afford for things to go south for them as well. i get the feeling that everyone is waiting for a truce to come out to be brought up probably in egypt, and everyone can say they both won and go back to...
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egypt's relations with hamas strengthened. but the new administration in that country. protesters in turkey set an israeli flag and photo of benjamin netanyahu ablaze during a demonstration last night. let's go now to the israeli side of the border as we've been reporting israeli tanks and troops have been taking up position there's. cnn's reporter joins us live from the border. fred, thanks for joining us. what you are seeing in the terms of military activity where you are? >> reporter: hi, gary. there is a lot of military activity on this side of the border as well. a lot of it has to do with the big military buildup that's going on here. look at the roads around the area of gaza, a lot of them have been blocked off. they're not accessible anymore to normal people that want go to go through there they're a military operation zone. you're seeing a lot of military hardware on the road, usually on the back of trucks. we see a lot of tanks being delivered here, a lot of armored personnel carriers. what's going on is all this hardware is brought to collection area as well
egypt's relations with hamas strengthened. but the new administration in that country. protesters in turkey set an israeli flag and photo of benjamin netanyahu ablaze during a demonstration last night. let's go now to the israeli side of the border as we've been reporting israeli tanks and troops have been taking up position there's. cnn's reporter joins us live from the border. fred, thanks for joining us. what you are seeing in the terms of military activity where you are? >> reporter:...
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and i think even in egypt when you have morsi says, well, the egypt of today is not like the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not like the arab world of yesterday. but fundamentally the mandate now, the mandate of morsi and the mandate of the muslim brotherhood in egypt is to govern this burdened country 80 million some people and the idea that the egyptians even the egyptians with the closest to hamas that they would give a kind of veto over their own policies to hamas i don't give that much credence. >> do you believe the israeli/egyptian peace treaty which was signed in washington in 1979 will survive? >> i believe the egyptian/israeli treaty will survive because it's important for both parties. i think the peace was made and kept by mubarak. i think now the morsi people will not pay homage to this piece, they will not praise it in full daylight but they will abide by it because they know it's essential for their relationship with the united states and for their ability to floetd loans from the international monetary fund and to keep this economy and this society aflo
and i think even in egypt when you have morsi says, well, the egypt of today is not like the egypt of yesterday. the arab world of today is not like the arab world of yesterday. but fundamentally the mandate now, the mandate of morsi and the mandate of the muslim brotherhood in egypt is to govern this burdened country 80 million some people and the idea that the egyptians even the egyptians with the closest to hamas that they would give a kind of veto over their own policies to hamas i don't...
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>> well, i'm more concerned of egypt. the muslim brotherhood is in power now, and it is unsteady power. they have to find the fine line between the secular military and the opponents. if there is a battle, it is inside egypt. >> and we were talking today earlier to find out that one by one all of the major security breaches are down played and in the end, we are left with general petraeus having had an affair, an affair discovered by the fbi under different circumstance, and in this circumstance, could he have ridden it out? >> well, he, himself, could not ride it out. he did the honorable thing and resigned. he knew that the announcement that he had been having an affair with someone not his wife, he knows the affect on this organization and the institution, and both the institution of the agency and of the military. and so he did exactly what one would expect of an honorable man and he tendered his resignation. >> and we have had general eisenhower, and general patton and president j.f. kennedy and all of them stayed in
>> well, i'm more concerned of egypt. the muslim brotherhood is in power now, and it is unsteady power. they have to find the fine line between the secular military and the opponents. if there is a battle, it is inside egypt. >> and we were talking today earlier to find out that one by one all of the major security breaches are down played and in the end, we are left with general petraeus having had an affair, an affair discovered by the fbi under different circumstance, and in this...
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and fred, tell us why egypt is such a concern this time around. >> oh, egypt is a huge concern this time around, carol, because first of all, it has a new and very islamist government in place that, of course, for many people especially hamas in gaza believe it's more on the sides of hamas than governments in egypt have been before. there are people who believe egypt might not stand idle by as this is happening as the government did in the past when hosni mubarak was still in power. certainly egypt plays a lynchpin role in all of this. the egyptians not very happy, not only did they call for condemnation of israeli air strikes in gaza but also recalled their ambassador here from israel and responded the israeli ambassador. certainly egypt is a big concern. meanwhile, the israeli military operation in gaza is going on. there have been further air strikes. about 100 missile sites targeted by the israeli military. they're saying they're trying to target especially medium and long-range missiles they believe could be a threat to towns like tel aviv and other towns around gaza. israeli prime
and fred, tell us why egypt is such a concern this time around. >> oh, egypt is a huge concern this time around, carol, because first of all, it has a new and very islamist government in place that, of course, for many people especially hamas in gaza believe it's more on the sides of hamas than governments in egypt have been before. there are people who believe egypt might not stand idle by as this is happening as the government did in the past when hosni mubarak was still in power....
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how do you deal with that, egypt and jordan both condemning israel, your two allies in the region. they're saying, your prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, overplayed his hand and is possibly undermining israeli security. what do you say to that? >> there's a wrong and right side. the wrong side is the side that shoots thousands of missiles on civilians. more jews living in gaza, it was supposed to become the singapore of the middle east, but instead, they turned it into a launch pad of thousands of missiles, there's nothing to talk about. we have to defend ourselves. we owe it to ourselves and we owe it to the western world. with terror, you don't talk. there's no dialogue. you're putting the western world at greater risk. >> you know, if new jersey was being bombarded by missiles coming from a foreign state, the united states of america would retaliate, would stop that right away. we've taken missiles for the past eight years coming out of the gaza strip. we vacated the gaza strip. there's not one jew living there, yet instead of turning it into a haven of peace, they've turned i
how do you deal with that, egypt and jordan both condemning israel, your two allies in the region. they're saying, your prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, overplayed his hand and is possibly undermining israeli security. what do you say to that? >> there's a wrong and right side. the wrong side is the side that shoots thousands of missiles on civilians. more jews living in gaza, it was supposed to become the singapore of the middle east, but instead, they turned it into a launch pad of...